I wonder how this idea affects our individual giving both domestically and abroad. In Broome County, $10,000 is not enough to eradicate poverty. However, in countries such as Kenya where Kennedy and Jessica Odede are currently running a school for girls in Nairobi, $10,000 may be able to reach more people. This idea relates greatly to my previous blog and our upcoming readings with Peter Singer and effective altruism. The question is also an issue of how wide or deep we want our impact as students to be in this philanthropy class.
The book A Path Appears reminds me a lot of my recent experiences during my missions trip to Nicaragua this winter. Through working at a boy’s vocational school called La Finca de Belen, I learned a lot about resourcefulness and humbleness. There are no social services available to the students I was working with, and the cost for school uniforms and school supplies deterred many families from sending their children to school. Thus, many of the young boys I met were forced to quit school and they began to sell drugs to make money. If not for La Finca de Belen, many of the students would be involved with gang violence, and some may not be living today. The school teaches them sustainable ways to make an income through skills such as welding and farming. Of course, we have poverty in the United States, but witnessing this type of poverty was impactful to me because even the most basic services were nonexistent in rural Chinandega. There was no clean water to drink or bathe in and, as in other countries, people are lucky to have even one meal a day. My team and I went to the school with $8,000 for supplies and plenty of helping hands. Altogether, we were able to complete a large floor for dormitories, install a water pump so the farm can finally have running water, and feed everyone who was working for the entire two weeks. There was also a significant amount of money left over for purchasing more supplies later after the team left. It seems to me that we were able to make a great impact with a limited amount of time and resources still.
In Kenya, I learned through watching the Path Appears Documentary available on Netflix, that Kennedy and Jessica’s school first launched with only $10,000 from their savings. Jessica and Kennedy were in love, and she used all of her money saved from working and babysitting towards the cause of her Husband. Of course, they received numerous funding afterward making the program sustainable and successful, but I found it intriguing because as a class we also have $10,000 total to give. In Nairobi, that was enough to launch the Shining Hope Program. Could our $10,000 be enough to really spark a new program with such a deep effect in Broome County? Or are we better off funding a current program? Is it worth the risk for our class to give $7,500 to a new program with little data? Or is it possible for our money to launch something as great as Shining Hope?
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Children from surrounding villages walked to the school for craft time. |
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Steven, Naom, and Miguel are all students at the school. |
In Kenya, I learned through watching the Path Appears Documentary available on Netflix, that Kennedy and Jessica’s school first launched with only $10,000 from their savings. Jessica and Kennedy were in love, and she used all of her money saved from working and babysitting towards the cause of her Husband. Of course, they received numerous funding afterward making the program sustainable and successful, but I found it intriguing because as a class we also have $10,000 total to give. In Nairobi, that was enough to launch the Shining Hope Program. Could our $10,000 be enough to really spark a new program with such a deep effect in Broome County? Or are we better off funding a current program? Is it worth the risk for our class to give $7,500 to a new program with little data? Or is it possible for our money to launch something as great as Shining Hope?
Peter Singer suggests that it makes more sense to give money internationally because the impact may go further. In his TED Talk, this is evident as he debates whether to give to programs such a Guiding Eyes for the Blind or to international programs that can reach more people in preventing blindness through surgery. In response, I wonder if we could say that it is much easier for us to give our time volunteering in Broome County then abroad. Therefore, we can settle by helping both areas with the resources available to us. Committing time to the causes here locally that we are passionate about while also devoting some resources to people abroad who have much less.
I also find the concept of creating a wide or deep impact interesting because of the differences in the size of the organizations we are reaching out too. Some organizations are much larger such as Catholic Charities, YMCA, and Children's Home. Urban League and Lourdes Detention Alternative After School Program are much smaller. Specifically, the Lourdes program has a small capacity because "the small group size allows for more one on one interaction between staff and participants and the ability to focus on individual needs" (Lourdes Hospital). To me, I feel that this may contribute to a deep impact in the lives of the eight individuals who are vulnerable to engaging in criminal activities, and thus it may really benefit the youth involved with the organization, despite its limited capacity. Therefore, I think we need to take great consideration in the differences between how wide our potential organization reaches out versus how deep their effects are in the community when making our final decision.
I also find the concept of creating a wide or deep impact interesting because of the differences in the size of the organizations we are reaching out too. Some organizations are much larger such as Catholic Charities, YMCA, and Children's Home. Urban League and Lourdes Detention Alternative After School Program are much smaller. Specifically, the Lourdes program has a small capacity because "the small group size allows for more one on one interaction between staff and participants and the ability to focus on individual needs" (Lourdes Hospital). To me, I feel that this may contribute to a deep impact in the lives of the eight individuals who are vulnerable to engaging in criminal activities, and thus it may really benefit the youth involved with the organization, despite its limited capacity. Therefore, I think we need to take great consideration in the differences between how wide our potential organization reaches out versus how deep their effects are in the community when making our final decision.
If we were offered the opportunity to give our grant to an international non-for profit, I would still elect to share it with a local organization. Although we may not be making as great an impact quantity wise in comparison to giving internationally, we cannot neglect the needs of the community simply because we won’t have such an immediate and striking impact. To me, there is something off putting in the mentality that there is a race to alleviate the most people in the shortest amount of time by omitting charitable organizations that don’t serve a great number of people. Although it is a rational view to increase the quantity of people being helped, there is still merit in giving to an organization that doesn’t treat 800 people but rather 8 people. For instance, I like that we as a class are considering donating our grant to the Lourdes Detention Alternative After-School Program. I would rather donate to an organization that offers long-run individualized attention to some children than one which caters to a large number of children some of the time. In this case, it would be irrational for Lourdes to serve such a large group of people because their after school program thrives on individualized attention. In an effective altruism viewpoint, this program would be seen as ineffective because large amounts of resources are dedicated to a select group of individuals. However, the time and attention this program offers is what makes it effective. Rather than blanket $10,000 for 80 children to receive mediocre care, isn’t it more effective to invest $10,000 for 8 children to truly hurdle over their barriers to success and inspire others in their communities to do the same? I believe that the quality of success our dollar gives is more important the quantity it can reach.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree, and think personally that a deeper impact is more valuable. Myself, I'm lobbying for the Urban League because of just this prospect. When I think about giving to an organization that enables children's education, and later well-being, I think that a locally-based group such as the BCUL is most capable of that, compared to a larger organization's offshoot stationed in Broome County. This relates, Julie, to a point you'd made about whether our $10,000 can really jumpstart something such as Shining Hope in Nairobi. I believe that the success of Shining Hope revolves around its imtensive and localized nature. Similarly, BCUL's program of interest for our class doesn't help more than 40 children annually. Yet, the focus of this program as well as its local roots make me much more confident of its potential success.
ReplyDeleteInsofar as Singer's point of effective altruism, although I don't agree with some of its severity in certain areas, I do agree that one of its intrinsic values is crucial for our philanthropy in this project: effectiveness. And I really enjoyed your post, Julie, because it reflects exactly what I believe that effectiveness is, in this case. Being given the choice between quantity of educated and quality of education is similar to, as you earlier states, being given the choice between flatly doling out food or trying to help procure a community more able to fend for itself. In both cases, the deeper philanthropy is the option which seeks to provide the most empowering means, rather than the most satisfying ends. And, much like how successful provision of means is in the Nairobi Shining Hope program, I believe our contribution to a local organization bent on more intensive education and provision rather than quantitative successes can create a similar effect here in Broome County; respective, of course, to each area's needs.
I especially liked that you included photos of your trip in this blog post! It was very interesting to see. A certain line in A Path Appears also made me think about the difference and importance of giving wide or giving deep. Two men were thinking about where to donate their money and decided to give internationally because the money would go farther that way. However, if I wanted to feel good about the donation that I was giving to an organization I would choose to give deep. Supporting a large AIDS research organization is a very respectable act, however I think I would feel better about donating to someplace like the Lourde's program or the Binghamton Chapter of the Urban League.
ReplyDeleteOne great part about our class is that I feel like I will be able to develop a relationship with the employees and maybe even some of the people that utilize the non profits. As a class we are also able to see what a difference our donation will be making in our community, and while we aren't going to increase the graduation rate to 100%, I hope and believe that our contribution will impact the life of at least one person.
This is a great and unique blog post, I really like the personal narrative! In response to your question, I think that the majority of people would choose the more effective altruistic option, which is generally the giving deep option, the option with the most return on investment. For a contribution to be the most effective, its best to have the most long-term potential return on investment, say, forty children becoming future leaders. Arguably, that would bring the most change.
ReplyDeleteWe as a class have already selected a topic that is innately a deep impact topic: children's education. However, the lesser liked and more underated topic of wide impact is equally as important to providing great societal change. Although wide impact on its own leads only to subsistence rather than a dynamic change, it acts as the building blocks for further developments on the horizon. The complex must spring from the basic. You cannot tackle AIDS research without first providing direct relief to those dying. You cannot teach children a trade skill without first providing them with food, water, and shelter. Deep impact can be extremely difficult to implement as well, and requires cultural work, careful planning, and a bit of luck and skill to perform the plan.
However, once those building blocks are in place, deep impact is truly the means to instill change even against difficulties. I wholeheartedly selected Catholic Charities because I believed that through their mentorship and counseling programs, they would place an impression so powerful on these children that it would impact them for the rest of their lives. I trust that an organization such as this could make a meaningful contribution just as much as those programs in Kenya!
I personally tend to think similar to how Peter Singer thinks about giving, that giving to an international organization tends to allow your dollars to go further. Not to say I am discounting the importance or necessity to give locally, because giving to our own community can only make it stronger. I have experienced giving time and resources locally, nationally, and internationally, and I have seen firsthand that if your goal is to accomplish the most good with the resources available, internationally is the place. However, it is difficult to justify to oneself to give to people halfway around the world who you will likely never meet while ignoring a cause that helps your struggling neighborhood. I belief this is a personal battle we each must take on inside ourselves, to determine what cause or goals we are passionate about, and then pursue them. I don’t believe that there is a wrong answer; as long as we are not consumed with greed and self-interest and make an honest attempt to help others, we have nothing to be ashamed of.
ReplyDeleteAs for a wide vs. deep impact, both have their pros and cons to me. A wide impact, you’re helping a great number of people, just maybe not to significantly. A deep impact, you’re greatly helping people and hopefully fostering a greater improvement, but only for a few people. So do we want quantity or quality? Again, I don’t see a wrong answer to this either, but I tend to elect for a deeper impact. If we can save just one person, whether it be from poverty, a life of crime, or from life threatening illness, then we have done irrefutable good.
Thank you for a great post Julie and for sharing about your journey with us!
Julie, what a great post and what an exciting mission trip you were able to attend. I'm sure being up close and personal witnessing the struggles and daily tribulations these young kids endured was an extremely eye opening yet rewarding experience. I would love to do something like this one day.
ReplyDeleteI think that personally giving is giving. I am an advocate for both giving locally, nationally, and internationally. I think that some may be more effective for different kinds of people based on personal characteristics, but I do feel that they are all beneficial.
It's normal to assume that although there is a significant difference in both a wide and deep impact on these issues, they both achieve the critical goal of helping those in need.
If you are the kind of person who needs to see results immediately or wants to know that you're changing the lives of thousands, it may be more practical to aim for a wide impact. However if you're content with giving your time, resources, and money to a single person or group of people and changing their entire lives for the better, shifting for them what has become the norm and shaping their future for the better, than a deep impact would be best for you.